Biblical

Did The Exodus Happen?

Some evidence does exist that the Exodus did take place. For many years most archeologist were looking in the wrong going by church tradition (in some cases arab) rather than careful examineation of the Bibilical text. Most of the evidence comes from the Gulf of Aquba at the northern end of the red sea. On the Sinai Penensula side there is a large beach capable of holding 2-3 million people. A land bridge under the water goes all the way across the Saudi Arabia and with the deep point about 250 ft. The rest of the gulf the depths are in the thousands. On this land bridge there are unique to this area growths of coral that appear to have grown on wheels and axals. One gold covered 4 spoke chariot wheel was found (coral will not grow on gold) but was unrecoverable as attempts to move it would have destroyed it. Two pillars one found on each side of the land bridge placed there by King Solomon (900 -800 BC)to cormmemorate the crossing were also supposedly found.

The best pyramidologist agree that the Eygptians didn't build the pyramids of Giza (the Great pyramid and the 2 next to it) The other pyramids in Eygpt appear to be inferior copies of these. If you are really interested in the pyramids there is a great little 95 page book that focuses on the great pyramid at the below publisher.
 

The only link that may exist between the Exodus and the pyramid is that certain measue meants along passages appear to match up dates(1 inch = 1 year). I just started looking into this so I can say how reliable it is at this point. Unfortunately all my information comes from books (see the info at the bottom of my other post).
 

Chariot Wheel rebuttal

The gold chariot wheel is a hoax, gold was to heavy to use for this purpose as Egyptian chariots were pulled by two very small horses, the had few if any metal fittings, those would be bronze or copper. Egyptian chariots were made of wood and hard leather, they had 6 spoked wheels not four. See Stillman and tallis Armies of the Ancient Near east 3,000-539BC.

The only gold on a chariot would be some gold leaf decoration on those of the Pharaoh's guard which was rarely committed to action but used for parade duties.

The Hebrew language, and earliest versions of the account of Exodus refer to the crossing of the sea as happening in the REED SEA not the Red Sea, this is the region of the Nile delta where the marshes of the delta reach the sea,

Because Europeans did not know that the Sea of Reeds existed they assumed, incorrectly that it was a mistake for Red Sea.

Why Were the Jews in Egypt

First let's start at the beginning... A hebrew man named Jacob, son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham, had 12 sons. Jacob's name was changed to Israel by God, and the descendants of his sons became known as Israelites and the 12 tribes of Israel (one of which was the tribe of Judah from which sprang the Jews). One of the brothers, Joseph, was favored by Jacob (Israel) and his brothers were jealous of him. They sold him to slave traders who took him to Egypt. While there he gained favor in the sight of Pharaoh and was raised to a position of power in Egypt. He also interpreted a dream of Pharaoh which predicted 7 years of plenty followed by 7 years of famine, and suggested that Pharaoh store grain during the years of plenty to survive through the famine.
During the famine, the brothers of Joseph were sent by their father to Egypt to purchase grain. Joseph revealed himself to them and brought the rest of their families, including his father, to Egypt to live with him.
At the beginning of the book of Exodus, it says that the Israelites multiplied and became extremely mighty, and that a new king arose in Egypt who did not know Joseph. Because the Israelites were growing mighty, they were seen as a threat by this new king, and so he put them into bondage, placing taskmasters over them to keep them from rebelling or joining with the enemies of Egypt should war arise.
Of course, this is just a quick synopsis of the story as it reads in the Bible. This should answer your question as to the Christian and Jewish view of the events.

Historical

Is Exodus Fact?

If the Exodus happened it is much later then the Pyramids which were built 2,580BC not by slaves but as a civic and national projects suing volunteers and paid labor. At this time the Hebrews or Habiru as they are also called were still in Mesopotamia, modern Iraq. If Exodus happened it was most likely between 1,600-1,500BC, a thousand years later.

Far from slaves of the Egyptians the Hebrews, also called Habiru were part of a wave of Canaanite and Amorite Middle Eastern Semetic speaking invaders who in 1,720BC seize the city of Avaris in the northern Nile delta. This is the region of Goshen referred to in the Bible. It is held by the Canaanite Hyksos until around 1,560BC.

These invaders in 1,720BC are called the Hyksos and it is possible the Habiru also called Hebrew became slaves of one of their princes in the wars for control of northern Egypt that followed the invasion having been on a losing side as Hyksos princes fought each other for control.

By 1,674BC the Hyksos declared a "pharaoh" as ruler of Lower Egypt, he was called Salatis and was first in a line of "great Hyksos" or Hyksos Pharaohs to rule the divided nation of Egypt. The real Egyptians held out far down the Nile in Upper Egypt. The god of the Hyksos was called Baal, his Egyptian counter part was Set, both gods figure in the Bible as evil ones.

By 1,580BC there is a revolt under way by the Egyptians under Khamose and later his son Ahmose to restore Egypt and expel the Hyksos, their followers and slaves from the north of Egypt back across Sinai into Canaan. These campaigns take several generations to accomplish and result in the expulsion of all Canaanites, Amorites, the Habiru, and any Egyptians who have mixed with them from Egypt.

Exodus may recount the Hebrews flight from the Egyptians out for revenge on the Hyksos or from a Hyksos "Pharoah" who ruled them harshly.

Why Were the Jews in Egypt

to flee yet one more famine in their lands which they suffered through in regular cycles. They didn't exactly have the cream of the crop where land was concerned, which might cause one to wonder why? What was it about these Semitic peoples that caused them to appear to be 'marked' throughout history? What indeed?

2800 BCE gives us the first evidence of religious practices in Sumer, ploughs by 4500 BCE, sails by 4500 as well (which makes it convenient for Noah to sail down the Tigris on his barge when the Black Sea is formed from the barrage of salt waters flowing into it) ans the flood is probably about 4100 BCE. Everyone who survives comes down from Sumer and begins anew, and by 3400 BCE we have the first walled cities in Egypt, while the Semites are still running from oasis to oasis with their tents. Sumer is the first known civilization to have a complete social structure, and since both Noah and Abram (around 1700 BCE) have descended from Sumerian society, it might give us yet another clue as to their 'status'?


By 2040 BCE, the Egyptian Old Kingdom has been replaced with the Egyptian Middle Kingdom, and after fleeing yet another famine in their land, the Semites (or the Hyksos/Shepherd Kings as they're referred to in Egyptian hieroglyphics which we have no trouble reading at all today) established themselves in Egypt after infiltrating a weakened society, and began their rule over Egypt in 1786 BCE. In 1720 BCE, the Hyksos sacked Memphis, Joseph is born in 1620, is vizier to Hyksos king Apophis by 1570, while the Egyptian King (remember Upper and Lower Egypt) Seqenenre the Tao becomes king in 1574, is confined to Thebes by the Hyksos, and is subsequently murdered by Joseph's brothers attempting to steal the king making rituals from Seqenenre which he refused to do, in 1573. His mummy bears all the scars attesting to the Masonic (remember and think Egypt where they started) rituals still in use today.

Now, under Kamose, the second son of Seqenenre, the Hyksos (protoJews) are driven out of Egypt in 1567 BCE for Regicide, in the First Exodus. Regicide; the killing of a king or queen, and Big Taboo for those who do it. Between 1500 and 1450 BCE, Moses comes back for those left behind, but it may have been as small a band as 600? No matter what's been misconstrued to give the pre(proto) Jews power and importance they did not have (and the Egyptians would certainly have kept a record of a mass exodus from the country no matter the reason) they left Egypt for murdering the Egyptian King, Seqenenre. They murdered and had to suffer the consequences, just as Moses was a murderer, and his eventual 'brother' Aaron is a high priest of the pagan court of the Hyksos and never even heard of 'Yahweh' til Moses comes schlepping into Egypt to take the last of the Hysos (who wanted to go) out because Santorini has erupted, and he needs a following for his new religion with him as the head. Where oh where have we heard that same scenario before? Paul? Petie? Moses came back to mop up the last who were left and were being 'picked on' for being among some of the most brutal, conscienceless people of that history and region.

Two Grand Exoduses down the stairway, though neither occurred at Tara that we know?

There is also no record of the Hyksos settling anywhere in the region for their 'forty years' of wandering, which is pretty ridiculous when you consider they'd traveled to Egypt every time a famine came along, and they were pretty familiar with the route?

They stepped gingerly into swamp water covered with reeds misinterpreted as the Red Sea, and the rest is history as we know it today; usually pretty questionable when all the pieces have been put together?

The 'Jewish' struggle has never been about God, or gods (they did love Ba'al though and many others in a regular Pantheon of Gods and Goddesses) but the only struggle was to steal the king making rituals from the Egyptians, set up their dynasty in the very same manner as the Egyptians and the Babylonians (not one single altar anointed for God throughout the entirety of their 'captivity' in Babylon; guess they forgot God they were having such a swell time?) while not acknowledging it wasn't their idea from the beginning nor did they have the means, but gave themselves a history from Bethsheba as a gift to Solomon when he didn't have a history to make him feel good about himself, and then Solomon proceeds to become what many considered to be Pure Evil, and why? He was known as a Sorcerer and Magician by the way, acts punsihable by Jewish Law yet oddly he is not. Solomon knew enough of the king making rituals from his friendship and closeness with the Egyptian Royal House............ because he was of equal and royal lineage with David as his father. But where did David get his mandate? He was chosen by the same initiates and priests of the temple in Egypt rather than any legitimate bloodline through the Jews. He'd been chosen by 'other criteria'; the same which caused Joseph's brothers to butcher Seqenenre. The Jews which emrged owe much to their kinder Egyptian cousins, much more than has ever been acknowledged, to keep all the secrets safe, even if it means restraint on the Egyptians' part to this day. David and Solomon had no true connection to the protoJews who acted like the earth's first Nazis as the Hyksos beyond the acceptance of so many different tribes in the desert for unity and cohesion. It's why the blood is so important in the religion: it identifies certain tribes for whom every new kingdom needed to legitimize itself, changing names and all else which reflected their true past history (got to be pure from the beginning, even if it was just dreamed up this morning?) and eventually gave the Jews they became a supposed history which is actually impossible. The Old Testament is a history of other peoples' accomplishments like the Egyptians and the Babylonians who figure as the principal characters in the Opera. The deeds were not those of either the Hyksos, the protoJews, or the Jews they became. Never. Ever. It's a story of Becoming and not much more.

God love 'em forever. They've earned it being as clever as they were? They got a kingdom (two for awhile) and came out of Babylon in the last Diaspora with the Essenes as Hassidim firmly in place by 189 BCE. The Essenes, who demand they are not Jews to this day. But they most certainly claim Yahshua. They claim such distance for a reason.

When you have as many tribes and displaced peoples as were traveling here and fro to avoid the latest wars and famines, any and every combination is possible as time goes on?

This is about establishing kingdoms and murdering the Egyptian king to get the most intricate secrets of the rituals which enabled the king-to-be to travel out of body to the real world we all leave before we come here......... and a few others which are possible. It established the new king's right to rule, a 'divine right' which has permeated eastern and western thinking for millennia, because it gave kings, queens, emperors and empresses express permission to rule........ from the gods and goddesses themselves. It's the entirety of Yahshua/Jesus' Life as well. They failed all along. They failed. They failed a bit later too, when it really counted the most. The rest is hysteria borne of fear, torture, mayhem and murder to this day. It need not be so.

Hope this helps?

Alternate View of the Christ Story

How quickly we forget and hide the evidence when it doesn't conform to a new religion springing up which makes a god out of a man! But that's exactly what the rites Jesus practiced, accomplish, and certainly accomplished for him.

What is the Christ Consciousness? Many have called it the Holy Spirit, the church called it the Holy Ghost for centuries, but what is it exactly? And why didn't the church come right out and admit that it was the Christ Consciousness they were referring to? Because if it's presented honestly, they haven't a leg to stand on. It's that simple.

The Christ Consciousness is the very 'anointing' which Jesus underwent after birth, and not before. It has to be 'called down' as readily as it's ever been breathed into the entire Spiritual Life of anyone whose alive! not one born with this Spiritual Awakening as an innate specter of its' Spirit at birth. Jesus had to 'call down' the Christ Consciousness, and coupled with the rites and rituals of the Essenes and Babylonians still contained within Masonic rituals to this very day where a man is lifted down into a tomb as part of the initiation rites, patterns himself after the rites which literally provided an out of body experience wherein the person leaves his body, communes with the gods and goddesses and returns to his body, only to be awakened at dawn the following morning having been 'reborn' with a whole new connection to the Spirit World through the Experience. This is what Jesus experienced, this is what Lazarus underwent having not died in the literal sense but in the Spiritual; he called out to Jesus as Jesus approached the tomb, not after. Jesus healed the young rich boy and remained six days and the boy was naked. In the Garden of Gethsemane 'the naked man fled'. What's going on? Jesus was performing the initiation rites as the Master Mason he was for all three; the young boy he'd healed, for Lazarus, and for the last man standing in the Garden who fled when the Roman soldiers approached............. and the Catholic church knows it to this day, as do the Jews. It's also why the church has attempted to distance itself from the Jews while holding its' Book as the basis for its' own: it knows exactly where the 'origins' lie....... with the Egyptians and the Babylonians, and exactly why even Ezekiel attempted to completely obliterate the contributions of the Egyptians, too.

Jesus was a Master Mason as was David, Solomon, Seqenenre the Tao, Akhenaton and those who fled Egypt after Akhenaton's murder, who were the Initiates who'd been trained in his Temple to worship the Sun Disk, introducing monotheism to the Egyptians and the reason why he was murdered. They fled. The 'Hassidim' the Essenes, were Akhenaton's descendants within the Semitic peoples, but they were not Jewish! And why they were separate from them to begin with. Don't forget the 'Jews' don't actually emerge as a supposedly united people until just before Jesus' arrival. There's a reason why all of it happened, and the answers are here. The same theology of Akhenaton and the Essenes is contained within Zoroastrianism........... and the Catholic church to a small degree, just utterly destroyed in its' true basis, it's truer form, and its' Message to the world to deliver up a brand new religion which hasn't been new, as much as corrupted from its' true origins to control this world.

It's open to all. It has never been necessary to have a single priest to act as 'mediator', no priest let alone a pope has been the 'emissary of the Christ' and can never be; we are all our own priests, male and female, whom must literally be 'born again' through the rites which anoint us to accept the Christ Consciousness, accepting the Selfless Love of First Cause as Creation Itself which has created all we perceive, and that which we have not. It's non emotional. It simply Is. It has neither anger, regret, disappointment, hatred, emotional love, a sense of retaliation, retribution, condemnation or any other human attribute since it's never been human and never will be, but Spirit, and one which must be invited in and does not condemn a single human ever again, but lives a life of charity in an awakened Life which reaches for the stars in the 'quickening' so often mentioned over the centuries, and least understood.

What Jesus accomplished for himself as well as other Masters, we will all do.

And there has never been another Way, any other Plan, and never will be. It's all of us or none at all, since we are without doubt or reservation the parts of the Whole, and a house divided against itself cannot stand and never will.

You are Me, I am You.

Forever.

Jonny Kay